[extropy-chat] European Free State Project

[Dirk Bruere]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey at yahoo.com>
To: "Dirk Bruere" <dirk at neopax.com>; "ExI chat list"
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] European Free State Project


> > > http://europeanfreestate.org/
> > >
> > > The FSP has apparently spawned a bunch of efforts using similar
> > names.
> > > There is the Swing State Project, the Free Arms Project, I have
> > heard
> > > rumors of a 'Green State Project', and now European Libertarians
> > have
> > > launched a European Free State Project to establish a similarly
> > > libertarian free state within the European Union.
> >
> > With approximately zero probability of success.
>
> Ah, well, now I know it will succeed. The US LP gave us similar odds of
> even reaching 5,000 members. We went on to get the endorsements of LP's
> of a couple dozen states and NH's governor, and our election occured a
> year ahead of even our own original expectations. We've made national
> headlines on a number of occasions and our people appear regularly on
> television and radio, national commentators like Walter Williams,
> Claire Wolfe, Neal Boortz, Richard Boddie, Thomas Sowell, The Man Show
> co-host Doug Stanhope, and ABC co-anchor John Stossel have all either
> endorsed us or become members. Even the Republican Liberty Caucus
> endorses us.
>
> Who has a more successful political movement so far, the FSP or The
> Consensus??? I will bet that the EFSP has its 5,000 member vote within
> the next two years on where to locate. Suggest you jump on the train...
>

I certainly have no objections to such projects, but the levels of success
required by the Consensus v establishing a libertarian nation are vastly
different esp in Europe.
With 5000 members the Consensus could do a great deal.
However, for the other project to succeed they need *millions* of committed
people all in the same place.

Dirk

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