[extropy-chat] Re: [wta-talk] [wta-politics] Max More's article on Democracy and Transhumanism

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Don Dartfield <twodeel at jornada.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Max More wrote:
> 
> > This disturbs me in large part because socialism has always been a
> > disastrous goal and method and extending it to transhumanist issues
> > would probably be even worse.
> 
> On the other hand, the fact socialism (or even communism) has proved
> disastrous in the past doesn't mean that it would be disastrous with
> a
> transhuman population.  The reason it has failed has been succinctly
> summed up as "it goes against human nature," but the whole point of
> transhumanism is to change what it means to be human.  Whether it
> would be desirable to modify your personality to fit in with a
> communal system of living is obviously a matter of individual
> tastes, and it shouldn't be forced on people, but just because
> that kind of system hasn't worked out in the past with unaltered
> humans doesn't mean that it will forever be unworkable.

Socialism has never been disastrous for those who lived well within its
precepts, it has been disastrous only for those who did not fit well
in, under, and around its system. Successfully engineering a
'transhuman socialist' would do nothing to make socialism successful,
because socialisms negative externalities always fall on those who are
not inherently socialist. Unless you forcibly convert everyone into
transhuman socialists, then it is a supremely dumb idea, so the point
is moot.

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Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
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                                       - Mike Lorrey
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