[extropy-chat] Re: blah snip: Gun control [Australia]
thespike at satx.rr.com
Sun Apr 4 23:01:51 UTC 2004
At 03:34 PM 4/4/2004 -0700, Mike wrote:
>Are you asserting that NH's perceived whiteness is the prime factor in
>our low crime rates???
>NH is 95% non-hispanic white.
In a country with a bitterly racist and divisive history (like the USA and
to a lesser extent Australia--lesser only by chance, in that whites failed
to kidnap and enslave huge numbers of some other ethnic group, while the
indigenes were reduced in number by disease and depredation), it is
perfectly *obvious* that homogeneity is the prime factor in your low crime
rate *compared with other American states where the situation is otherwise*.
>Trying to find out what minority populations there are in Australia
>through the ABS is a truly labyrinthian task.
In some parts of Australia there are lots of enclaves of humans recently
from different backgrounds, usually disadvantaged as newcomers often are,
and quite often their criminal youth prey on their own communities or erupt
into spiteful and brainless but very primate murderous aggression against
each other in turf wars. These days a weapon of choice seems to be the
sword or machete, something `traditional' white European Aussies would not
use. In the ACT, like NH, there are fewer ethnically diverse gangs,
although probably many more white collar criminals scamming the nation,
since that's the headquarters of the federal government and bureaucracy.
But everyone having small arms at home doesn't seem to halt their
depredations in the USA.
> > Try comparing NH with... well, it's hard to find
> > a part of Australia small, compact and homogeneous enough to make any
> > cf. valid. Maybe the Australian Capital Territory: (pop. 322,680) year
> > 2001-2 homicides: 2 women, no men, 0.62 per 100,000.
>NH is 1.23 million, not 300k. If you are complaining about the
>population differential between Oz and NH, you are guilty of your own
Amphigory and persiflage. I am complaining about the comparative population
mixes, as you make clear above.
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