[extropy-chat] fermi's paradox: m/d approach

[Dirk Bruere]

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>
> While recognizing this as possible, I am always interested
> in examining the grim possibility that the speed of light *really is*
> the cosmic speed limit, for everyone everywhere always, forever
> and ever, amen.  {8-[

Recall reading a paper a few years ago that showed that FTL is equivalent to
'sliding' across worlds in the MWI

> Another scary thought is the possibility that there really
> isn't any magic physics yet to be discovered: that we have
> found most of the important limits already, and that they
> really are universal limits.  The whole M/D approach to
> Fermi's paradox depends on this pessimistic supposition.

I think the most likely explanation is the Simulation Argument.
However, here's another posibility.
That the fall into a Black Hole creates infinite computing resources as one
approaches the singularity.
All advanced civilisations opt for such 'extinction'.

> Of course I am eager to be talked out of it, or to be given a
> feasible alternative such as Harvey's we-are-on-the-universal-
> spam-blocker-list notion.  However I must say that I find
> little comfort in the suggestion that Earth is the
> galactic Nigeria.

What would ET want from us?
Science is pretty much irrelevent.
I suggest that what is valuable is art, religion, philosophy  etc and all
those things that are *not* universal.
In which case making contact now would simply poison the well from their POV

Dirk

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