[extropy-chat] WTA-BOARD: Authorized adding members without explicit permission

[Harvey Newstrom]

I don't know why Giulio doesn't remember that WTA is adding members 
without their explicit permission.  We actually argued about this, and 
my motion to stop the practice failed to get a second or any votes.

--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, CISA, CISM, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC
<HarveyNewstrom.com>
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 > From: Ari Heljakka [mailto:heljakka at iki.fi]
 > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:25 AM
 > To: Hughes, James J.
 > Subject: Finland TA: mass-joining finally
 >
 > Hi, James!
 >
 > I apologize for the delay about FTA members information.
 > Please find it attached (single record in 2 file formats).
 > This list is naturally for _basic_ memberships. There are
 > currently 78 names or so.
 >
 > A week ago the association finally had its meeting and
 > accepted the rules that enable me to join people to WTA as
 > basic members without their explicit permission ;-) From now
 > on everyone will be automatically joined.
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> From: mail at harveynewstrom.com
> Date: Thu May 6, 2004  11:27:20 am US/Eastern
> To: WTA Board of Directors List <wtaboard at transhumanism.org>
> Subject: [wtaboard] Re: Finland TA: mass-joining finally
> Reply-To: WTA Board of Directors List <wtaboard at transhumanism.org>
>
> I don't think we should be adding people as members who are unaware of 
> their membership and/or never requested it.  There may be laws in some 
> countries against signing people up for membership or mailing lists 
> without their knowledge or consent.  Even if it is legal, it could 
> cause problems and ill-will.  Surely we should send these people an 
> offer/welcome/confirmation e-mail before adding them?
> Some of these members may complain about wta "spam" that they never 
> requested.  These members haven't checked the "yes" box to allow us to 
> share their information with other organizations, so we need to track 
> this.  They also haven't seen or agreed to our rules of conduct on our 
> registration page and may claim ignorance as a defense.
> --
> Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, CISA, CISM, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC
> <HarveyNewstrom.com>
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> From: Harvey Newstrom <mail at harveynewstrom.com>
> Date: Mon May 24, 2004  2:49:39 pm US/Eastern
> To: WTA Board of Directors List <wtaboard at transhumanism.org>
> Subject: [wtaboard] MOTION:  No inducting members without permission
> Reply-To: WTA Board of Directors List <wtaboard at transhumanism.org>
>
> Sorry to be a stick in the mud, guys, but this still really bothers 
> me.  It is simply unethical to put people's names on our membership 
> rolls without their permission.  I would be furious if some 
> organization did this to me!
>
> I move that in the future the WTA refrain from inducting members into 
> our organization without their explicit permission.  Any members so 
> inducted in the past without their explicit permission should be 
> removed from the rolls until their explicit permission is obtained.
> --
> Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, CISA, CISM, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC
> <HarveyNewstrom.com>
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