[extropy-chat] Suda et al papers (was Cryonics without comprehensive brain disassembly?-No)

[Brett Paatsch]

Emlyn ORegan wrote:

> I don't know how to find this paper, but it looks promising...
>
> Suda I, Kito K, Adachi C.
> Viability of long term frozen cat brain in vitro.
> Nature. 1966 Oct 15;212(59):268-70. No abstract available.
> PMID: 5970120 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=Display&DB=pubmed


I've photocopied the above (3 pages) and the other Suda et al paper
"The Bioelectric discharge of isolated cat brain after revival from
years of frozen storage" Brain Research, 70 (1974) 527-532
(5 pages). They're temporarily available at www.entrepitec.com.au 

I hope electronic copies of these papers become more available so that
it will be hard for them to be presented as evidence for what they are not. 

I read, or reread these recently mainly to see if they bore out what Merkle
said they did in his paper The Molecular Repair of the Brain [1]. They
constituted relatively easily checkable facts. 

In The Molecular Repair of the Brain Merkle wrote, "The brain seems
(sic) more (sic) resistant than most organs to freezing damage [58, 79]".

I think that that statement is false (verifiable so by reading the reports) but
I would like to hear what others think.

The reason that this sort of stuff is an issue for me is that citations offered
in papers that are not peer reviewed; (a bunch of amigos with a shared bias
towards a particular outcome is not peer review), are often hard to check by
individuals interested in the truth yet with a finite amount of time to waste 
routing out mischief and wishful thinking. 

When something is not true I prefer to take out the trash not keep it 
around out of sentimental value to keep tripping over or to waste the time
of other people whose good efforts may be diverted by it as well. 


- Brett Paatsch



[1]  The Molecular Repair of The Brain
      http://www.merkle.com/cryo/techFeas.html

Citations as numbered in Merkle's The Molecular Repair of The Brain

[58] "Viability of Long Term Frozen Cat Brain In Vitro" by Isamu Suda, 
       K. Kito and C. Adachi, Nature Vol. 212, October 15, 1966 page 268. 

[79] "Bioelectric discharges of isolated cat brain after revival from years
       of frozen storage," by I. Suda, K. Kito, and C. Adachi. 
       Brain Research 70:527-531, 1974.              
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