[extropy-chat] FWD (UFO UpDate) Re: Limboids

[Terry W. Colvin]

From: Kyle King <kyleking at sbcglobal.net>
To: <ufoupdates at virtuallystrange.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:32:12 -0600
Subject: Re: Limboids


>From: Terry W. Colvin <fortean1 at mindspring.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates at virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:56:22 -0700
>Subject: Limboids

>Forwarding permission was given by William R. Corliss.

>Science Frontiers, No. 156, Nov-Dec, 2004, p. 2

>http://www.science-frontiers.com

>Biology

>Limboids

>What, if anything, separates life from non-life? To be alive, it 
>is widely promulgated that such entities must metabolize, 
>reproduce, and evolve in the Darwinian sense. It is also 
>popularly believed that living matter is intrinsically different 
>from nonliving matter, although one no longer speaks of "the 
>breath of life" or of an "elan vital". Even so, knowing all we 
>now know, there does still 'seem' to be a fundamental gap 
>between life and non-life. Is this gap illusory or perhaps 
>filled by entities of which we are not yet aware?

<snip>

>(3) The metabolisms of limboids are too slow and their lifetimes 
>too long (millions of years) for us to discern them. In other 
>words, they 'seem' inanimate. (This potential attribute was 
>suggested by P. Gunkel.)

>(4) The lifetimes of limboids may be too short for us to 
>register them.

>(5) The limboids live outside the ranges of our eyes and 
>instruments.

>(6) The limboids may incorporate considerable dark matter and be 
>hard to detect. Conceivably some manifestations of dark matter 
>could exist in recognized visible organisms and perform 
>organizing functions that "breathe life" into inanimate matter!

>Scientists have not seriously looked for limboids, but they may 
>have caught fleeting glimpses of them, and "laid them back in 
>the closet," as Omar mused poetically.

<snip>

Hi Terry,

Excellent post and kudos to Mr. Corliss for his generosity.

This idea of what constitutes life has intrigued me for some 
time.

I remember in geometry class, dimensions were illustrated this 
way...

A point or line is one-dimensional

A square or polygon is two-dimensional

A cube or polyhedron is 3-dimensional

What comes next cannot be drawn or modeled in 3 dimensions, so 
we can only create crude approximations or envision them in our 
minds. We know mathematically that the 4th-dimensional cube or 
tesseract exists, yet we have no ready means by which to show 
it. The usual description goes like, "a cube with a cube at each 
of its faces". This sounds good, and a "shadow" of it can be 
drawn or modeled with sticks and Styrofoam, but the implications 
of how such an object would behave in our perceivable 3-
dimensional world are completely hidden, since that aspect 
cannot be modeled in anything less than 4 dimensions.

In the context of this thread, it is interesting that as we say 
that we are alive, we explain this by describing the 
components... mostly water, some minerals, proteins, and some 
barely understood electro-chemical processes which seem to 
result in a persistent sense of "being". Also, an entire 
ecosystem of bacteria, virii, etc that either depend on the 
host, or on which the host depends, or both.

In this context, I find the earth itself aptly described as a 
life -form. Mostly water, minerals, proteins, electro-chemical 
processes, beneficial and non-beneficial parasitic ecosystems, 
etc.

Likewise, I find the idea that life could be related to the dark 
matter very compelling, and the strong sense that as we cannot 
accurately model in 3 dimensions what exists in 4, we very 
likely could have life all around us that we simply are not 
equipped to see, or detect.

Is it possible that the dark matter is connective tissue for a 
life-form which is as vast as the universe itself? I don't mean 
to sound new-age, and I'm obviously not the first to propose the 
living earth idea, but is it possible that the universe is 
alive, and that multi-timelines are an evolved process of 
survival, and that the planets are merely organelles or sensors, 
populated by smaller and smaller ecosystems? Is it possible that 
dimensions are not finite, but a product of natural selection on 
a cosmic scale? Is it possible that this evolution includes the 
rise and fall of life forms in all dimensions and on all 
timelines?

If the dark matter is truly the connective tissue of the cosmic 
"dude", is it possible that clairvoyance, UFOs, abductions, etc 
could all have at their root the natural mutations of this 
cosmic dude, or by the inadvertent overlapping of dimensions, 
and the crossing of timelines either through design or 
misadventure?

If we could find the means to communicate in a direct and 
universally comprehendible way, we might tap into knowledge of 
which we cannot even imagine. We might also find an answer to 
Prophecy, ESP, UFOs, abduction, etc. We may evolve right along 
with the cosmic dude. Could the "fleeting glimpses" of dark 
matter mentioned in the article be analogous to the similar 
fleeting glimpses of UFOs, aliens, and other anomalous things in 
our collective experience?

Limboids could be the very fabric of reality. I guess we'd be 
some form of mutation. The discomforting question is whether we 
represent an evolutionarily beneficial mutation, or a cancer.

Great thought-provoking post. Thank you.


Kyle


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