[extropy-chat] how partisanship skews perception

Samantha Atkins samantha at objectent.com
Wed Nov 3 08:50:15 UTC 2004


Hi Arthur,

For now I am more interested in learning what I can about how it is to 
be there and your opinion of whether there is a fit for me at Google.   
Shibani, Emmett and I are all on a T-90 at Vignette.   They will keep 
us working 90 days beyond SF office termination for transition of 
knowledge and work.  I just heard today that the majority of the work 
will be finishing full clustering.  Clustering is near and dear to me 
despite being done for what is now all too obviously a sucky company.

I am also working to get the ORM open sourced as it is one large 
important bit that they do not believe they can support themselves.   
There are a lot of other projects that I can and have thought up based 
on the ORM.   Open sourcing it would insure Vignette it would continue 
to maintained, viable and evolving indefinitely.   They lose a bit of 
IP but the IP isn't that huge as far as translating to real directly 
salable value.   I have a fuller argument than I will go into here.   
Those I have talked to about it are all supportive although the more 
highly placed ones doubt Vignette will actually go for it.  Here's 
hoping.

So I am still here until Feb. 12.   At that time I collect an 
additional 11 weeks of pay as severance plus sweetener for sticking 
around.  During that time I will discipline myself to give Vignette 
proper only 40 hrs/wk of my time.  For me this is very hard.   The rest 
of the time will be spent on attempting to form a business possibly 
involving consulting but preferably (and certainly eventually) fielding 
a product based on one or more of my ideas.   I am drawn toward 
producing a hosted product.  If my evaluation of progress and prospects 
around mid-January doesn't look promising I will consider applying 
then.

One thing at Google I am particular curious about is how the 1 day a 
week to work on your own project works out.   Can it be anything you 
wish within some limits?  What sort of limits?  What kind of vetting is 
needed?   How easy is it to use Google tools and resources to put a 
project up on Googles web or on some part of their servers like Orkut?  
  Some of the things I would like to see built might be built fielded 
much more widely if I had space/tools/resources within Google to help 
spread it broadly.     Otherwise I will just have to create something 
cool the hard way and have Google gobble it up after it has proven 
itself.  :-)

- samantha


On Oct 27, 2004, at 1:31 AM, Samantha Atkins wrote:

>
> On Oct 23, 2004, at 7:41 PM, Mike Lorrey wrote:
>
>> Firstly, they are not MY ultra-socialists.
>>
>> Secondly, I find your attitudes here rather wanting. If extropians are
>> such big supporters of futures markets being the best predictors of
>> facts and future events, and futures markets behave according to price
>> signals created by mass consensus, and mass consensus is that Iraq was
>> involved in al Qaeda, isn't that more true than the flawed 
>> intelligence
>> agencies conclusions that totally missed the events leading up to 911?
>>
>
> Whoa.  You believe that mass consensus created by the administration, 
> in large from whole cloth, means that that mass consensus determines 
> what is actually true?    Surely you are joking.
>
> The administration itself severely restricted some of those agencies 
> from doing their jobs regarding terrorism before 9/11.   Do you think 
> those agencies and everything they say should be discredited because 
> they were not allowed to do their jobs?
>
> I am not capable of believing that you believe what you are writing.   
> Or maybe I lack a compatible sense of humor.
>
> - samantha
>
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