[extropy-chat] No Joy in Mudville

Emlyn emlynoregan at gmail.com
Fri Nov 5 05:32:20 UTC 2004


But in this case, if you mean the middle east, it'd most likely settle
down if it was left alone. It's the US that proposes to go tearing
through it starting general war. The driver for that is greedy people
supported by a fearful populace, a populace afraid of "terror" (lol!).
So, it's the fear for security that'll end up causing any such war.

Whereas, if there was more idea that things are generally good and the
outlook positive, the reactions from fear would subside and that war
and related trouble become less likely. Like economics, politics is
shaped by confidence. We are in a very low confidence phase, like a
global political depression, but it doesn't reflect the reality of our
lives imo.

Emlyn


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:12:42 -0800 (PST), Al Brooks <kerry_prez at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sure & I'm thankful just for agricultural, whether
> it's high tech or organic hippie farms. It's not the
> 'West' that is getting worrisome it's West and Central
> Asia. Of course it probably wont go down this line too
> far yet there's fair odds of a general war where many
> get killed or sick from the... whatever.
> My Dad didn't think he'd have to go off to WWII but
> it came closer & closer inching up until he could see
> it coming.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I think one of
> > the biggest
> > issues we have in the west at present is that we
> > (generally) don't
> > realise just how good we have it. People are only
> > seeing the bad
> > stuff. We need to remind everyone (and ourselves)
> > that personal
> > freedom and self direction are going gangbusters.
> > Don't sell it short!
> >
> > Happier people would make decisions we could all be
> > proud of, I think,
> > rather than thinking and acting meanly as I see too
> > many people do,
> > especially in areas like foreign policy. It *should*
> > be a no brainer,
> > because there's a lot to be happy about.
> >
> > > > > As transhumanists, a useful job would be one
> > of
> > > > reassurance; lots of
> > > > > head patting and comforting... "there there,
> > it's
> > > > ok, look out the
> > > > > window can you see it's a beautiful day? The
> > world
> > > > your children and
> > > > > your grandchildren are inheriting and creating
> > may
> > > > be weird and fast,
> > > > > but it is really good, better than you might
> > have
> > > > dreamed."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is a really good point. I try to do this at
> > > > times, but more often than
> > > > not, I get going about how great the future is
> > going
> > > > to be and end up
> > > > scaring the hell out of people. Often I am
> > reminded
> > > > that these are "obvious"
> > > > hints that Armageddon is upon us (again).
> > > > I really should spend a bit more time
> > head-patting.
> > > > Maybe if we all do a
> > > > little of this, people will relax a bit. :-)
> > > >
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