[extropy-chat] Enlightenment and the election
Patrick Wilken
Patrick.Wilken at Nat.Uni-Magdeburg.DE
Thu Nov 11 12:41:54 UTC 2004
> While the liberal intelligentsia and media have been pompously trying
> to portray blue states as better educated and red states as more
> ignorantly benighted, even going so far as promoting a hoaxed up list
> of states by average IQ vs how they voted which alleges to show smart
> states as for Kerry and dumb states as for Bush, here is some real data
> which cannot be disputed: SAT Scores by State vs election results:
I don't believe it anymore than I believed the IQ scores by state when
I first saw them. Where do you get these figures? I found the original
IQ scores pretending to show the South as dumber than the North
insulting. However, its doesn't make any sense to me that California
and New York are going to have lower average SAT scores than
Mississippi or Kansas. Richer states are likely to better education and
better SAT scores. It would be fascinating if this wasn't true. This
seems to be to be a simple inversion of the original bogus IQ post.
One confusing factor is that there are large differences in the
proportion of students taking the SAT in different states:
http://www.sciway.net/statistics/satstates96-98.html
According to these 1998 figures, which haven't changed much in six
years (the r^2 correlation between total SAT scores by state between
1998 and 2004 is .98), Alabama only has 8% of graduates taking the
test, whereas New York has 76%. Given the reasonable assumption that
the probability of taking the SAT is non-random (i.e., when the number
of students doing the test is not 100% of the State the better educated
students are more likely to take the test) it would seem the figures
below (if true) are worthless without a proper normalization.
If we do a simple correlation between voting for Bush and total SAT
score we get a positive r^2 correlation of .12, whereas if you look at
voting for Bush compared with proportion of students sitting the SAT
you get a negative r^2 correlation of .31 (i.e., states with more
students sitting the test are much more likely to vote for Kerry). Much
more of the variation in State voting is accounted for by the
likelihood of students sitting the test, than the total SAT score. My
guess is that this is related to the fact that on average poorer states
were more likely to vote for Bush than richer ones.
best, patrick
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State Vote Vote SAT V SAT M % Total
Alabama Bush 1 562 558 8 1107
Alaska Bush 1 521 520 52 1024
Arizona Bush 1 525 528 32 1047
Arkansas Bush 1 568 555 6 1098
California Kerry 0 497 516 47 1002
Colorado Bush 1 537 542 31 1071
Connecticut Kerry 0 510 509 80 1008
D.C. Kerry 0 488 476 83 951
Delaware Kerry 0 501 493 70 1002
Florida Bush 1 500 501 52 1010
Georgia Bush 1 486 482 64 953
Hawaii Kerry 0 483 513 55 986
Idaho Bush 1 545 544 16 1072
Illinois Kerry 0 564 581 13 1116
Indiana Bush 1 497 500 59 982
Iowa Bush 1 593 601 5 1180
Kansas Bush 1 582 585 9 1139
Kentucky Bush 1 547 550 13 1093
Louisiana Bush 1 562 558 8 1101
Maine Kerry 0 504 501 68 996
Maryland Kerry 0 506 508 65 1011
Massachusetts Kerry 0 508 508 77 1007
Michigan Kerry 0 558 569 11 1101
Minnesota Kerry 0 585 598 9 1144
Mississippi Bush 1 562 549 4 1111
Missouri Bush 1 570 573 8 1116
Montana Bush 1 543 546 24 1090
Nebraska Bush 1 565 571 8 1126
Nevada Bush 1 510 513 33 1019
New Hampshire Kerry 0 523 520 74 1032
New Jersey Kerry 0 497 508 79 997
New Mexico Bush 1 554 551 12 1101
New York Kerry 0 495 503 76 992
North Carolina Bush 1 490 492 62 964
North Dakota Bush 1 590 599 5 1173
Ohio Bush 1 526 540 24 1063
Oklahoma Bush 1 568 564 8 1111
Oregon Kerry 0 528 528 53 1036
Pennsylvania Kerry 0 497 495 71 987
Rhode Island Kerry 0 501 495 72 991
South Carolina Bush 1 478 473 61 947
South Dakota Bush 1 584 581 5 1126
Tennessee Bush 1 564 557 13 1115
Texas Bush 1 494 501 51 989
Utah Bush 1 572 570 4 1149
Vermont Kerry 0 508 504 71 1005
Virginia Bush 1 507 499 66 1001
Washington Kerry 0 524 526 53 1034
West Virginia Bush 1 525 513 18 1034
Wisconsin Kerry 0 581 594 7 1137
Wyoming Bush 1 548 546 10 1087
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