Quest 4 John Calvin was Re: [extropy-chat] Who thinks the Bush admin lied over Iraq?Onwhatbasis?

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Brett Paatsch <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> From: "John Calvin" <john.h.calvin at gmail.com> 
> > Osama Bin Laden released a tape claiming responsibility for the
> 9/11
> > attacks, and intelligence places clear links to the Al Qaeda
> > organization for the planning and execution. 
> 
> Is that a fact John?  Did he explicitly claim responsibility on
> behalf of
> Al Qaeda and/or himself or did he sort of verbally handwave and say
> god-willing yes the infidels were a-smitten and we observed with the
> satisfaction of the righteous or some such. 
> 
> Reason I ask is that it *was* my impression but I didn't personally
> see or watch any such tape, and lately here in Australia a couple
> of radical muslim talking heads have said that they did not think
> that OBL had claimed responsibility for september 11.

A lot of the anti-US crowd is trying to claim OBL never copped to
responsibility, that he's just a convenient patsy, and even that the
9.11 events were staged. For instance, there are widespread claims that
no airliner struck the pentagon, that it was a smaller plane. Typically
these are by people who have no experience in weaponry, physics, or
civil engineering. Do some googling beyond the radical left and right
pabulum.

> 
> In at least one case, the more reliably source involved, the ABC
> (Australian public Broad Caster) interviewer, seemd to be surprised
> that his interviewee was unaware of that "fact".
> 
> I think the "terrorists" are sometimes of like mind with the
> Bush-admin and the govts that like to demonise them in perhaps
> being willing to take "credit" for more than their due. 

The London bombings are the first of the current era that had more than
one group claiming responsibility, though Zawahiri in his most recent
tape claimed the bombing as well as al Qaeda in Europe and a third
group. There are established protocols in terrorism for proving one's
bona fides in claims sent to media and police, typically disclosing
details about the incident that police either were not yet aware of or
had not released.
Furthermore, videos were found of OBL in Afghanistan that were
captured, not produced for public propaganda, in which OBL explicitly
admitted to approving 9/11 and referring to his civil engineering
experience in directing the hijacker pilots to strike the buildings
where they did.

Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
Founder, Constitution Park Foundation:
http://constitutionpark.blogspot.com
Personal/political blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com

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