[extropy-chat] Real estate as an extropian investment

[Robert Lindauer]

I guess I think that social security along with other forms of top-down 
social engineering are doomed to failure -effectively implementing them 
is nearly impossible even with the assumed goodwill and competence of 
the administrators.  When you intimately involve government in the 
decision process of how long someone is going to live, you're asking for 
trouble.  Next thing you know, there's a life-tax on top of the 
retirement tax and school tax and tea tax, all controlled by people who, 
as americans, we -should- fundamentally mistrust following the "absolute 
power corrupts absolutely" maxim.  If -someone else- then decides how we 
are to invest in our own futures, yes, that's socialism at least.  
"Communism" was just a propaganda word, sorry for using it.

The notion of "contributing to society and GNP" is so, well, 
controlling.  I hate thinking that my life -depends- on the GNP.  I like 
to think that my life depends on me being able to make/save enough 
resources to survive - that that depends on the goodwill of my neigbors 
is nearly self-evident.   With neighbors, that's okay - I like my 
neighbors, they know that they depend on me just like I depend on them.  
But with politicians, the power-balance is too skewed and depending on 
them for basic survival issues is foolish - like gambling your life that 
some politician will get some legislation passed for you, an absurd idea.

Robbie


Bret Kulakovich wrote:

>
> You forgot the horns: ]=)
>
> My point is : If you are passing up Social Security/Pensioning for a 
> longevity process, is not said system then paying for that process, 
> costing the system money anyhow? Or did I miss something?
>
> And no, of course that's not Communism, per se. Or, if what I wrote 
> was, than what I read was.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
>
>
>
> ]3ret
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Robert Lindauer wrote:
>
>> Bret Kulakovich wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'll see your 'longevity or social security/pension' and raise you  
>>> 'longevity only if you contribute to the GNP and society'.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Communism?
>>
>>
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