[extropy-chat] Qualia should be blatantly obvious, very simple, and crystal clear.

Marc Geddes marc.geddes at gmail.com
Thu Dec 1 09:57:36 UTC 2005


On 12/1/05, Brent Allsop <allsop at extropy.org> wrote:
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> Now, if it is not crystal clear to you that the
> quale red we use to represent this information in
> our conscious world has some very important
> fundamental differences or if you will
> "qualities" from the abstract number our robot
> uses – then again – there is something about this
> theory of perception, consciousness, and qualia
> that you are missing or not properly thinking
> about.  Because it should be blatantly obvious,
> very simple, and crystal clear.  At least it
> seems that way to me when I think of it this way.
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> Brent Allsop
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Say what?  Qualia are certainly *not* obvious!  The best scientists and
philosophers have crashed hoplessly against the mystery of consciousness for
2000 years without success!

I believe that I am the only person on Earth who  understands qualia at this
time. -But if I'm deluded then I'm in good company - all the other
scientists and philosophers failed too- ;)

You may be interested in reviewing my last posting and the notes from my
'Mathematico-Cognition Reality Theory' (MCRT).

I proposed an equivalence between qualia and mathematical sets.  Now a 'set'
is the fundamental unit of mathematics.  Everything can be defined as a
set.  Since a 'number' is a mathematical object, a 'number' is also a set.
And if I'm right that a 'Set' and a 'Quale' are equivalent, then 'numbers'
are indeed identical to qualia.  Remember, that 'numbers' are abstract too -
'numbers' are not physical!

You can think of a 'Set' as a group of things with a logical 'lasso' around
it.  This 'lasso' represents a relationship between a mind and the things in
question.  Even an individual thing has its own Set - a Set consisting of
the single object.  The difference between the Set of a single thing and the
thing itself is that the Set represents the relationships between a mind and
the thing in the Set.




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