[extropy-chat] effing

[gts]

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:56:00 -0500, Brent Allsop <allsop at extropy.org>  
wrote:

> But you do have a choice.  You can wear filtering glasses

No, in that case the glasses become another object of my observation, with  
powers to produce qualia in my experience. I would have no choice then but  
to see world through my rose-qualed glasses.

Qualia (what Locke calls secondary qualities) seem to be powers of the  
objects of our observation. Although not primary qualities of objects,  
they are derived from those real primary qualities. For our purposes here  
I would really like to call these secondary qualities "phenomenal  
properties", or even better, "phenomenal powers" of objects, and say that  
they exist in some real sense.


-gts