US not right to invade say Iraqis Re: [extropy-chat] letterconcerning presidential growth

[Herb Martin]

> From: Jeff Davis
> --- Joseph Bloch <transhumanist at goldenfuture.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > The irony here is, they would not be able to decide
> > that, if we had not 
> > overthrown Saddam Hussein. They would still be under
> > the jackboot of 
> > Saddam and his vicious sons. The rape rooms would
> > still be in operation. 
> > People would still be thrown living into plastic
> > shredders... head-first 
> > if the death was to be merciful.
> 
> No, the irony here is that Saddam's atrocities were of
> no interest to you when he was the US ruling elite's
> pal (against the Iranian's) in the eighties, when
> Rumsfeld was glad-handing him, and the US corporations
> were selling him the precursors for the WMD's he was
> using to fill up those mass graves with Iranian
> corpses that you never gave a damn about, and Iraqi
> corpses that you are now so very very shocked to learn
> about, and which the US power elite, as Saddam's


Again someone like Jeff posts the "common knowledge"
that is JUST WRONG.  It is so tiring when people fail
to see through such propaganda and bithely repeat it.

The US WANTED to support Iraq against Iran in those
days when the main enemy was the still vital and
threatening, but was unable to stomach Soddam and
his behavior and so stood aside mostly during the
war with Iran.

As to precursors, these are the same chemicals that
are used in agriculture as pesticides and are also
equipement and stocks used in pharmaceuticals -- in
those days Saddam had not (yet) shown his prediliction
for GASSING HIS OWN PEOPLE and developing other
weapons of mass destruction BY THE TON (and long since
admitted by Saddam.)

The major exception, aid actually given by the US
during this time, was limited access to satellite
intelligence given largely when Iran threatened to
overrun Iraq.

Doubt this?  Then merely review the weapons used by
Saddam's Iraq:

	Russian tanks and armored vehicles
	French and Russian fighter aircraft
	French and Chinese Missiles
	Soviet block small arms

The US was NOT a major supporter of Saddam despite
the lies you have heard and may even have fallen into
the habit of repeating.

The attempts to change history in order to rehabilitate
the murderer Saddam are just plain disgusting.

Any argument against removing Saddam most devolve down
eventually to:  THe world would be better off if this
murderer were never removed from power so the US should
just leave Iraq and return Saddam to power.

What a crock.

--
Herb Martin