[extropy-chat] finding old (and new) sf

[Samantha Atkins]

On Jul 3, 2005, at 12:55 AM, The Avantguardian wrote:

>
>
> --- Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> What is needed is a means to pay creators of
>> information,
>> entertainment and so on that can be digitally (or
>> equivalent)
>> rendered AND make all of that information available
>> to everyone (with
>> some security caveats).  By so doing will we attain
>> maximum extropy
>> increment derivable from maximizing these
>> information flows.    Among
>> the benefits are:
>>
>> 1) Information will be maximally used to the benefit
>> of all;
>>
>> 2) Eventually the creators are more directly
>> rewarded than today;
>>
>> 3) People are not made criminals by the agents of
>> media companies and
>> other middlemen for maximizing their lives and
>> happiness using the
>> technology.
>>
>> 4) Innovators and future creators  need not fear.;
>>
>> 5) Innovation will be maximized.
>>
>> So how could such a thing be done?
>>
>> If there was a sufficiently large pool of funds, say
>> the size of the
>> current amount spent for year on such information
>> and entertainment,
>> and a means simply to reliably count how often that
>> information is
>> used,  then the creator or rights holder would get a
>> percentage of
>> the total pool based no some function applied to the
>> usage count and
>> various measurements describing qualities of the
>> information.    The
>> pool might be maintained by a low subscription fee
>> or through (ugh)
>> taxes.    Thus you have a commons that rewards
>> producers, is not only
>> not being depleted but is growing richer and it
>> supports maximal
>> information flow.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> Well for one thing how do we evaluate information
> content? Even in the current system there are times
> when by viewing information (for example a movie)
> where I feel that the maker of the movie should have
> paid me for having wasted my time.

The exact dimensions measured and terms of the formula and criteria  
will have to be worked out over time and will likely have dynamic  
components.

> In other times
> people have said or shown or communicated things to me
> for free and it is very valuable information. So
> whatever creative commons type system you are
> suggesting ought to somehow deal with that disconnect.

What disconnect is that.  It is perfectly fine for the woner/creator  
to decide they aren't interested in this form of compensation.

> I mean I am willing to pay by the byte as long as the
> information isn't SPAM or otherwise crap.
>

Nothing I proposed is remotely about paying by the byte.  Just the  
opposite in fact. You have a fixed rate subscription (one model).   
You can access as much of the information you want as often as you  
want for that.  You don't pay more if you use more.  You simply  
increase the percentage of the pool of funds allocated to the  
creators of the information you use.

- samantha

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