[extropy-chat] Death Toll

[Bret Kulakovich]

I would like to posit that we view the lives as equal in value, or we  
wouldn't be in Iraq in the first place.


I think we need to consider the origins of what we believe as a  
group, where it came from, how it came about. What do we need to do  
for it to thrive, aside from popular acceptance. Will Iraq and the  
people of Iraq be better off in 100 years for this having happened or  
not?


Let's change scale. Tomorrow doesn't matter. It is too immediate.  
Give me a year as a hundred. It is not the day to day dealings and  
beliefs that will carry us, it is the results. Results don't come  
from rehashing arguments, obviously, but a stalwart commitment to the  
positive. Maintenance of this requires more courage than the offering  
of any opinion, more time than the average person is allowed.



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On Jul 10, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Dirk Bruere wrote:

> Dan Clemmensen wrote:
>
>
>> Dirk Bruere wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Dan Clemmensen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The loss of 50 lives in London is horrible.
>>>>
>>>> In today's news, insurgents killed at least 20 Iraqis.  
>>>> Yesterday, 20 Iraqis were killed by insurgents. So far this  
>>>> year, on average, at least 50 Iraqis per week have been killed  
>>>> by insurgents, and some number of insurgents and/or Iraqi non- 
>>>> combatants have been killed by American and/or Alliance troops.
>>>>
>>>> Why are we more upset by the loss of lives in London than by the  
>>>> loss of lives in Iraq?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because London is not supposed to be a major war zone.
>>> Iraq is.
>>>
>>>
>> According to the US Government, major war operations ceased in  
>> Iraq in mid 2004. Why is an Iraqi life less important than the  
>> life of a Londoner? The US Government contends that Iraq is NOT a  
>> "major war zone."
>>
>>
> The US government can content what it likes.
> Maybe all its troops are being shot and blown up by muggers.
>
> As for why an Iraqi life seems less important than a London one,  
> there are many reasons, not least the fact that I spend half my  
> time in London rather than Iraq. I suspect that Iraqis feel that  
> what has happened in London is nothing special. Works both ways.
>
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