[extropy-chat] Gay marriage in Spain, a world of change

[Eliezer S. Yudkowsky]

Mike Lorrey wrote:
> 
> --- "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <sentience at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, opposing gay marriage is bigotry, just as bigoted as opposing 
>> marriage licenses for interracial couples.  And may I note that the
>> argument form is exactly the same between the two cases, "unnatural",
>> "eyes of God", "community standards", etc.  Two people love each other,
>> get the frick out of their way.
> 
> Racists and bigots have never opposed marriage licenses for interracial 
> couples, that is what government marriage licensing was invented for in the
> US, to control miscegenation. That gays want to demonstrate that they are
> chattel of the state, rather than demand a return to the historically
> proper marriage law for free persons: no licensing for free persons, is
> evident, as I've stated multiple times in the past: there is only ONE THING
> that gays will gain with marriage licensing that they can't replicate with
> regular contract law, and that is the heritability of social security
> benefits.
> 
> You don't become more free by demanding more chains.

I agree that it is a self-consistent and morally acceptable position to favor 
gay marriage and oppose government recognition of any marriage.  If this is 
your position, you should state it explicitly so as to distinguish yourself 
from certain widespread stupidities.

-- 
Eliezer S. Yudkowsky                          http://singinst.org/
Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence