[extropy-chat] Glad to be back

[Gary Miller]

Avantguardian said:

"Now while I agree that this is a very select elite club, I don't know if it
is necessarily a conspiracy. No more than all the wars and intrigues of the
middle ages in Europe was the result a "conspiracy" between the royalty of
the various countries of Europe. The over-class has always cooperated with
one another to keep the under-classes subdued, this is not an organized
conspiracy, it is just an aspect of maintaining power. Powerful people make
alliances and break them as the wind blows. No conspiracies, just the
political game. One of the oldest games in the world."

Wordnet defines conspiracy as a secret agreement between two or more people
to perform an unlawful act.

I'm not sure what other actual laws are being broken if a secret
organization succeeds in initiating a war for it's own monetary enrichment,
but...  

Wordnet defines treason as a crime that undermines the offender's
government.

If the Skull and Bones had plans to initiate wars for profit and succeeded
then the entire membership who had knowledge of that plan would be guilty of
treason against the United States government.

This site and links about Kris Milligan the son of a Skull and Bones/CIA
operative leads one to believe that they first tried to initiate a war in
Cuba.  When that failed they had their hands in Vietnam and now Iraq.

It also indicates that Bush has 10 other Bonesmen in his administration.

If Kerry would have won they would still have been in power.  Kerry may have
ran for and thrown the election.  Could anyone really be that uncharismatic
and boring?  If he had won it would have be harder for him to carry out the
war agenda based on the platform he ran on.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305275.shtml

Complete List of Members:  http://ctrl.org/boodleboys/boodlemembersalpha.htm

60 Minutes Expose which occurred before Kerry was nominated:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/111803skullandbones.html

What better way to take over a government than from the inside with no shots
fired?

The fact that Kennedy was the only president to stop one of their wars and
was assassinated seems to open another possibility that I had never ever
considered.  I'll resist making that connection for now and leave it to the
readers own devices!




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--- david stiger <stiger420 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to Gary Miller for this reply.  The responses I recieved have 
> not shaken my ideas and I am glad to know I am not the only one of us 
> who thinks that there is something sinister going on "behind the 
> scenes" in the politics of the United States.
> 
> <Avantguardian>
> For example, why would you need to think that Bush was a member of 
> some secret society in order to cause all the misery he has?
> <Gary Miller>
> It is more comforting for me to believe in an evil club creating a 
> puppet than a country that would select him of their free will!

Welcome back, Dave. Ok, I am willing to entertain the possibility of Bush
being involved in a conspiracy.
The Masons don't make a lot of sense for it though.
You can't have a conspiracy of thousands, it just doesn't work. Skull and
Bones at Yale University (a fraternity whose house looks like a mausoleum)
makes a lot more sense in this regard. They are supposedly a recruiting
grounds for the upper escalons of the military/industrial/intelligence
complex. 
      It is rumored that they bear some resemblance to a necromantic cult of
death worshippers but I doubt that their members take their own propaganda
seriously. The symbol of the skull and bones itself (the jolly roger) is
ancient Egyptian in origin being the bones of Osiris, god of the dead, but
obviously the college fraternity has no connection to ancient Egypt.
     The important things that I can gather from research of this highly
secretive (all college fraternities are) organization is:

1. They have recently allowed women in their ranks making them less like a
fraternity and are now instead a co-ed organization.
2. They enforce secrecy amongst members by requiring them to divulge secrets
or perform acts that are of a nature capable of being used in blackmail.
3. John Kerry who also went to Yale could very well be a member.

Now while I agree that this is a very select elite club, I don't know if it
is necessarily a conspiracy.
No more than all the wars and intrigues of the middle ages in Europe was the
result a "conspiracy" between the royalty of the various countries of
Europe. The over-class has always cooperated with one another to keep the
under-classes subdued, this is not an organized conspiracy, it is just an
aspect of maintaining power. Powerful people make alliances and break them
as the wind blows. No conspiracies, just the political game. One of the
oldest games in the world.

      

The Avantguardian
is
Stuart LaForge
alt email: stuart"AT"ucla.edu

"The surest sign of intelligent life in the universe is that they haven't
attempted to contact us." 
-Bill Watterson

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