[extropy-chat] Abortion (was: Famous author self destructs in public!Filmateleven.

[MB]

AFAICT, Mr. Lorrey is claiming that *abortion* is murder. Once a woman
is pregnant she'd d*mn well better *stay* pregnant full term, or she's
a murderer.  I haven't seen much about the responsibility of the man
in all this, perhaps he has none? Only later The Law might make him
pay - which isn't right as it's the woman's fault, job, responsibility
... (no, he didn't actually say that, but his "tone of voice"
certainly implied that to me)

Our opinions are opposed and I do not expect either of us to change.

His posts have made me wonder what happened in his life. Maybe he is a
very devout Christian with deeply held beliefs about "the human soul"?
Or perhaps he was involved with an unexpected/unwanted pregnancy that
was terminated without his knowledge or against his wishes? Otherwise,
I'm at a bit of a loss to understand where he's coming from.

What exactly makes a bundle of cells into "a person"? How much does
that interesting set of pictures of the embryo differ from those of a
dog or a cat or a monkey - or any other mammal?

If Mr. Lorrey's attitude and words are representative of The Free
State, I'm *awfully* glad I and my family didn't commit to moving
there.

Regards,
MB




On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Charlie Stross wrote:

>
> So you're equating third trimester abortion with murder?
>
> Can we agree you're on record as saying that?
>
> Now. Are you willing to go a step further and assert that second
> trimester abortion is equivalent to murder?
>
> C'mon. First trimester?
>
> Pre-implantation fertilized ova?
>
> Where do you draw the line?
>
>