[extropy-chat] Re: Iraq and legality again

[Samantha Atkins]

If law becomes "mythical and magical" or worse then we are lost.  The  
biggest brute force rules, for a time.

But I see the point that its legality is not particularly the point  
now.  The point in my view is that we went there based on lies, had  
grossly incorrect notions of how it would go, have lost more money  
and lives to chicanery and greed, and we will continue to lose in  
most every way as long as we hang on to the tar baby.  We are  
apparently acting like fools making decisions on the basis of sunk  
costs and sentimentality.

Me?  I would throw some arbitrary amount of money in for the Iraqis  
possibly under oversight of the UN to patch the country back together  
and get the hell out.   Say $50 billion or so.   Of course if I  
really believed peak oil is far too real and that the shit was about  
to hit the fan in energy and various other ways then I would hang on  
to my position there no matter how broken in its reasons or current  
results.

- s

On Jun 23, 2005, at 8:58 AM, John K Clark wrote:

> "Brett Paatsch" <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au>
>
>
>> would be *very* interested in seeing the best possible argument  
>> from the
>> American side, indeed from the Bush administration, that it was  
>> legal (not
>> amateur hour stuff but the real thing from a lawyer or legally savvy
>> person who knows the case)
>>
>
> Well.. to each their own, but personally I would not find an  
> argument about
> the legality of the Iraq war the least bit interesting. As it  
> turned out the
> war was indeed wrong, but not because it violated some mystical and  
> mythical
> thing called international law, it was wrong because it was  
> incorrect,  the
> Iraqi people did not treat the Americans as liberators and all the  
> war did
> was solve a problem that turned out not to be a problem at all,  
> Weapons of
> Mass Destruction.  As for International "Law" (really international
> suggestions) and the war's legality, who cares.
>
>  John K Clark
>
>
>
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