[extropy-chat] 70% oppose resumption of military conscription

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Your logic is impeccable, in the instance of a foreign
invasion or flagrant disregard of treaties the
pragmatic course would be to conscript those capable
of bearing arms. However I was referring to the moral
violation of the individual by the state in drafting
civilians, acceptable to statists. For a libertarian
to advocate conscription or even registering for
concription (registration is reality today) would be a
negation of the spirit if not the letter of the
libertarian creed. 
Your position is sound from the legal, pragmatic and
collective moral sense-- yet there is a little more to
it. You are tacitly admitting the state can supercede
the individual but there is no real contradiction with
you; all the same I am suggesting the individual can
in this context decisively supercede the state in the
very narrowest ethical sense. So we will have to agree
to disagree. There is no satisfactory philosophical
modus vivendi in this. Time will tell... there may be
a draft later rather than sooner. Or vice versa.


>What is the militia? It is the whole of the
> people, as the
> founding fathers said. How does one mobilize the
> militia? Militia is a
> libertarian concept. What is improper is using the
> militia, i.e. a
> draft, to forcibly mobilize the militia for foreign
> adventures against
> forces that did not attack the US or its citizens,
> or violate its laws
> (including treaties). 
> 
> Enforcement of the laws is a time honored use of the
> militia, going
> back to the days prior to William the Conqueror,
> when the English
> system of constables and shire reeves was all that
> was needed to
> mobilize the people for either law enforcement or
> military defense.
> 
> We don't live in the middle ages any more, though,
> we are not a simple
> agrarian feudal society. Society is complex and our
> laws are complex,
> and our Constitution, our highest law, recognises
> the legal weight of
> treaty with foreign nations as law, subject only to
> judicial
> interpretation in cases where they conflict with
> other law.
> 
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of
> human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of
> slaves."
>                                       -William Pitt
> (1759-1806) 
> Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
> 
> 
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