[extropy-chat] Atheism in Decline

[Jeff Medina]

Hate to break it to you, Mike, but you're an atheist. Atheism is lack
of theism, no more, no less. You're not a theist, so you're an
atheist. So sayeth the Grand High Council of the Godless.


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 10:41:41 -0800 (PST), Mike Lorrey <mlorrey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 6, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > > Tolerable treatment includes a lack of mockery, disparagement and
> > > insults.
> > >
> >
> > You mean unlike the disparagement of and insults towards atheists you
> > keep cycling on of late?  Is intellectual consistency and integrity a
> > virtue in your system of values?
> 
> Consistency includes giving as gotten. I also believe you are ignoring
> my equally critical evaluation of the quality of many theist arguments.
> So I'm not asking for tolerance of myself, as an agnostic (since until
> I have the knowledge to answer the questions of the Simulation
> Argument, I shall not have gnosis one way or the other), but of the
> atheist for the equally valid/invalid position of the theist as the
> theist should have for the equally valid/invalid position of the
> atheist.
> 
> I hear the atheists here crying all the time about the theist
> majority's political actions with absolutely no attempts being made to
> understand their position (such as the valid moral position of not
> being forced by government to pay for medical procedures the individual
> taxpayer believes are heinously wrong, which is just as wrong and the
> same moral stance as opposing the forcing of atheists to pay taxes that
> would go to support private religious education of other people's
> kids). You can't have your cake and eat it too.
> 
> Now, you generally don't like to be called on this and act very
> vehemently when I have used your own hypocrisy to justify other
> policies you oppose. When are YOU going to show some moral consistency?
> 
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
>                                       -William Pitt (1759-1806)
> Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
> 
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