[extropy-chat] Atheism in Decline: meme map

[Samantha Atkins]

in a sim  consciousness would be primary  in a matter of speaking.     
Primacy of Consciousness vs. Primacy of Matter has been a long standing  
bifurcation in philosophy although usually called by other names.

Victor Stenger has done work for some time debunking "quantum  
mysticism".    One example is here

http://www.meta-religion.com/Physics/Spirituality/ 
quantum_metaphysics.htm

- samantha

On Mar 7, 2005, at 2:06 PM, Damien Broderick wrote:

> At 01:14 PM 3/7/2005 -0800, Adrian wrote:
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>> More than one Eastern religion, such as Buddism, seems compatible  
>> with both
>> advanced science and advanced tech.
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> A strong countervailing current is spiritual monism: the claim that  
> All is Consciousness, or rather Consciousness is Primordial, sometimes  
> these days based in interpretations of QT. While I find this  
> suggestion preposterous, and almost certainly due to the conceptual  
> pratfall of category mistake, it's worth looking at, for example:
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> http://www.swcp.com/~hswift/swc/vol06no2/bkrev62.htm
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> That review, typically, includes such unpleasant absurdities as:  
> "Confronted with the genocidal horrors of our century, reason has  
> nothing to say." This denies the tentative answers offered by, say,  
> evolutionary and cognitive psychology without even attempting to  
> refute them.
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> Still, Goswami and others like him (I don't include such dubious QT  
> hawkers as Deepak Chopra or Fred Allan Wolf) might be worth a few  
> days' attention, if only to counter their stance from an informed  
> position, rather than a priori dismissal.
>
> Damien Broderick
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