[extropy-chat] Casimir Torque Project

Greg Burch gregburch at gregburch.net
Sun May 8 00:20:49 UTC 2005

Hey Mike -- this is an email list, not a points-counting club.  There are lots of people who read the list off and on who've accomplished many things on the scale you've pointed to, me among them.  While I've been a list member, I've built a successful law practice (or two or three), designed and built my dream house with my wife, learned to live with a lemur, helped the Smithsonian raise money to restore a Saturn V, taught myself 3d computer modelling, started a blog that gets quite a few hits, revived my Chinese language skills ... and that's just what comes to me off the top of my head.  There are plenty of others here who've done just as much or more.  It's true there's often an inverse proportion between activity in the "real world" and posting on the list here.  But that doesn't mean folks aren't still thinking about the issues we consider vital and, when the opportunity presents itself, moving things along a little bit at a time ...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org]On Behalf Of Mike Lorrey
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:36 PM
> To: ExI chat list
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Casimir Torque Project
> --- Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you for speaking up Adrian.
> Adrian is clearly one of the exceptions.
> > Since this list is text driven and does 
> > not yet have the capability to peer inside the minds of posters and
> > to record their day-to-day experiences, it is highly unlikely that
> > any poster on this list has knowledge of what list members are
> > actually doing.
> > 
> > This new list has a rule and that is insinuating comments intended to
> > discredit list members will not be tolerated on this list.
> No insinuations need to be made, I can merely ask for quantitative
> proof by asking people to answer the following questions:
> a) how many patents have list members applied for and/or received in
> the last decade?
> b) how many published papers/books?
> b1) nobel or other academic prizes?
> c) how many members have grown their personal net worth from their own
> entrepreneurship by more than a million dollars?
> d) how many political offices have they run or campaigned for, or
> managed campaigns for?
> e) how many non-profits started by list members have raised over
> $100,000 in one year?
> f) how many bills have been passed or prevented by the actions of list
> members?
> g) how many demonstrations have list members conceived, organized, and
> brought to fruition?
> I will wager that of list members that post to this list, less than
> fifteen have done one of the above, less than seven have done more than
> one, in the last ten years, not including myself (count me for six at a
> minimum).
> If a list member has not done at least one of the above in the last
> decade, they can draw their own conclusions about whether they are
> 'doing anything'.
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
>                                       -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
> Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
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