[extropy-chat] Original Sin was Bioethics Essay

Dirk Bruere dirk at neopax.com
Wed May 25 08:12:59 UTC 2005


Mike Lorrey wrote:

>--- Dirk Bruere <dirk at neopax.com> wrote:
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>>The Avantguardian wrote:
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>>>--- Dirk Bruere <dirk at neopax.com> wrote:
>>>As for knowledge no longer being a sin,
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>>>>that's something that 
>>>>does not follow from your assumption, any more than
>>>>a robber being 
>>>>pardoned makes robbery acceptable.
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>>>The knowledge itself was not the sin, eating the
>>>forbidden fruit to gain the knowledge was the sin. So
>>>we are forgiven for eating the fruit and the knowledge
>>>is now ours to do with as we please. So I guess using
>>>your robber example, we got pardoned THUS we get to
>>>keep the goods we stole. That is my interpretation.
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>>Actually, it was the knowledge of good and evil.
>>Genesis 2:9 /
>>Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is 
>>pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the
>>
>>midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evi/l.
>>
>>However, let's also not forget that what we were successfully denied
>>in 
>>Xian theology was access to the Tree of Life.
>>It's that one that will cause a problem if you cross theological
>>swords 
>>with Xians.
>>
>>Genesis 3:22
>>
>>/Then the LORD God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of Us,
>>knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and
>>take
>>also from the tree of life, and eat, and live
>>forever'/
>>
>>Genesis 3:23
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>>/therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to
>>cultivate the ground from which he was taken./
>>
>>Genesis 3:24
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>>/So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He
>>stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every
>>direction to guard the way to the tree of
>>life./-- 
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>Terrible theology Dirk. Jesus corrected his fathers action and gave us
>everlasting life, as any Christian knows. He died to reopen the gates
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Any US Xian will also quote the bit about where JC states that he has 
*not* done this.

>of heaven to man, which man had been barred from since Adam was cast
>out of Eden. That was the whole point of Christ dying on the cross for
>man.
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Only to those who accept JC as their personal saviour.

>Therefore, we have Christ's blessing to genetically engineer.
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On the contrary - he states that he is *the* way, not *a* way. Another 
favourite of Xians.

-- 
Dirk

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