[extropy-chat] Re: riots in france

Dirk Bruere dirk.bruere at gmail.com
Mon Nov 7 01:39:27 UTC 2005

On 11/7/05, Jack Parkinson <isthatyoujack at icqmail.com> wrote:
> Dirk said:
> >Obviously.
> >If they weren't particularly integrated you wouldn't know them.
> >Let me guess - those Moslems were well educated middle class
> professionals?
> > It is evidence of a religiously (self) defined self ghettoising and
> generally racially distinct underclass that may well be a permanent
> feature
> of the European landscape.
> Dirk
> A 'self ghettoising and generally racially distinct underclass' - this
> appears to put the onus squarely onto these people I think.
> Isn't it just an exercise in shifting blame?
> Any 'middle-class professional' of any race or creed must find it a lot
> easier to integrate and achieve acceptance in a new country. Perhaps we
> should condemn the poor for their effrontery in not being middle-class and
> having a decent degree?
> Generalizations about Moslems are worthless. PEOPLE (of any race or creed)
> live in ghettos in any part of the world where they feel the need to
> support
> each other against a hostile environment. If the environment is not
> ostile - the ghettoes disappear. There are no Moslem ghettoes in
> Australia,
> or China for that matter - and NOT coincidentally there is a general
> acceptance and tolerance between Moslem/Christian/Buddhists in these
> places.
> If that peace should suddenly shatter because a few fundamentalists start
> start lobbing explosives, we might start to see a similar situation to the
> one developing in Europe and the US...
> Jack Parkinson
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