Spirits (was RE: [extropy-chat] Qualia Bet.)

[Dirk Bruere]

On 11/28/05, Brent Allsop <allsop at extropy.org> wrote:
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> Robin Hanson,
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> > But how will you know *that* you are effing?  Say we find some weird
> > particle
> > that interacts with brains and correlates with states of awareness.  Say
> > with
> > the help of such particles we let you and your wife mix up your minds,
> so
> > that your brain gets input directly from her brain.  How will you know
> > this
> > isn't just some fancy hookup to her brain-as-computer that allows you to
> > treat her as a video game?  How will you know you are accessing her
> > qualia?
>
> You are right, strictly speaking, effing, alone will not let you know with
> absolute surety that you have the right phenomenal property in the
> destination mind.
>
> You are hypothesizing that qualia will correlate with "some weird
> particle"
> that we find.  I am hypothesizing that it will be an additional to causal
> property of matter (particles?) we already causally know about which
> correlates to phenomenal properties.  Whatever qualia turns out to be -
> the
> effing answers below will still be the same.


Direct interaction with the Platonic Realm posited by Penrose?
Or a combination of such an idea with the All Universes Hypothesis by
Tegmark.

Dirk
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