[extropy-chat] qualia

[Dirk Bruere]

On 11/29/05, gts <gts_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:07:36 -0500, Dirk Bruere <dirk.bruere at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Even if that is true, it still leaves open the question of the
> > communication between matter and intelligence such that qualia are
> > appreciated.
> > If every bit of information processed results in a speck of
> > consciousness/qualia or whatever, what is the mechanism that 'sees' it
> > and reports it to other?
>
> My view here is similar to Brent's.
>
> Either awareness arises as some new magical property out of unaware matter
> (emergentism), or else it is present in all matter (pan-psychism). I
> reject the former and accept the latter. Brent calls this "phenomenal
> properties of matter". I believe we are proposing the same idea, more or
> less.
>
> I think neurons in the brain experience a color when the light stimulus
> makes an imprint in them. We don't know the exact mechanism, but obviously
> it involves physical changes within or among neurons. In my view that
> physical change *is* awareness. Furthermore I think awareness happens
> whenever any physical object is affected by any stimulus.
>
>
If this is so it seems that the interface has got to involve QM.
In which case true AI is going to be a lot harder than we imagine, not to
mention uploading, since there is a hardware dependency.

Dirk
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