[extropy-chat] Extropic (was: Extropy and libertarianism)

[Robert Lindauer]

Dirk Bruere wrote:

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> On 9/12/05, *The Avantguardian* <avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>     --- Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc
>     <mailto:natasha at natasha.cc>> wrote:
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>     > At 04:14 PM 9/11/2005, Dirk wrote:
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>     > >What if the extropic is *not* the most efficacious
>     > path to Transhumanity?
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>     > Good question.  Let's discuss extropic then.
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>     Well Dirk, if extropy is the opposite of entropy, then
>     suggesting there are other paths to transhumanity
>     other than the extropic path suggests there is an
>     entropic path to transhumanity. Can you envision one
>     and describe it.
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> A Chinese  National Socialist dictatorship dedicated to creating 
> Transhumanity.
> Will that do?
> Or is that still Extropic?


Aren't the early science fiction visions of AI "accidental" - where 
either some mad scientist kind of lucks out and makes a super-being 
(Frankenstein or Metropolis) OR where some odd conglomeration of 
computer-networks combine to "accidentally" create something 
artificially super-intelligent.

Here we have a kind of disorderly thing (consciousness) arising from a 
disorderly state of affairs (e.g. the net or something).

The mad-scientist vision is compelling, though - one can imagine the 
-final mile- being pulled off by an outsider - some hacker bent on 
creating a system to break into the IRS or something uses some 
open-source AI system to do it and accidentally modifies it in just the 
right way, etc.

The stuff of good books, anyway.

R