[extropy-chat] Sheiks and sex (was OIL: Albertan tar sands)

Mike Lorrey mlorrey at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 17 02:15:01 UTC 2005



--- Robert Lindauer <robgobblin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> How can a -LIBERTARIAN- be backing an invasive foreign policy?
> 
> Isn't this specifically AGAINST the libertarian ideals?

A libertarian is for liberty for everybody, everywhere, all the time.
Libertarians are not against force, merely the initiation of force
against those who have not done so. Self defense and defense of others
is not initiation. 

With the restriction being that you don't pay for it with money stolen
from other people at gunpoint (and assuming it wasn't already being
stolen and wasted on something even less libertarian, like welfare or
social security), WHO DIDN'T ALREADY BELIEVE IN PAYING TAXES
individuals are free to engage in private efforts to defend others and
liberate others who are not free if that is what floats their boat. For
example, the Lincoln Brigades and the Lafayette Escadrille were pretty
libertarian means of  Americans pursuing their personal, libertarian,
foreign policy. Those of you who don't want to engage in
freedom-spreading are free to sit on their thumbs if they so choose,
and not be forced to pay for the liberation work of others, but they
shouldn't expect those who do to give much of a damn when some thug
puts a gun in their backs. If you want to armadillo, that is your get
out, but don't cry out at the injustice when some thug outguns you and
nobody else is around to lend a hand.

You also can't complain about taxes taken from those who believe in
taxes. Statists do not enjoy the protection of the non-initiation principle.

Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
Founder, Constitution Park Foundation:
http://constitutionpark.blogspot.com
Personal/political blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com

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