[extropy-chat] Continued from wta-talk: 'Beating Eliezer' ;)

[Dirk Bruere]

On 9/25/05, The Avantguardian <avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> --- Marc Geddes <m_j_geddes at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > Well, I think the Bayesian framework is definitely
> > on the right track but seriously incomplete. You
> > see, I think *physics* causality is *not* the only
> > kind of causality there is! I've reached the
> > conclusion that there are in fact
> > *three different kinds* of causality, and the
> > current Bayesian framework only deals with ONE of
> > them (the physics kind). So if I'm right there are
> > really three different Bayesian frameworks. And no
> > one has the faintest idea what the other two consist
> > of.
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> Marc, please explain why you think there are three
> kinds of causality. As far as I know, even the
> "physics causality" you speak of is contentious in
> that temporal ordering of events is dependent on ones
> inertial frame of reference in relativity. On the


The ordering is not depoendent, merely the measured interval.
Except EPR measurements that do not transmit useable information.

other end of the scale, there are experiments that
> seem to violate causality in quantum mechanics (e.g. ,
> EPR paradox, quantum erasure, etc). In light of this,
> on what basis do you contend that not only is standard
> causality real but that there are two other kinds?
> After all any number of angels can be conjectured to
> dance on the tip of a unicorn's horn, yet without
> proof of angels or unicorns, the conjecture is
> baseless.
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> The Avantguardian
> is
> Stuart LaForge
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