[extropy-chat] Scientology and Transhumanism

[Pete Bertine]

On 2/16/06, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/16/06, Dirk Bruere wrote:
> >
> >  I am pursuaded, but you are brainwashed etc
> >  The fact that two people can come to conflicting conclusions given the
> same
> > data means that there is likely no objective position.
> >
>
> That is a very silly, smart-alec statement unworthy of you, Dirk.
>
> Either,
>
> 1) You have very little knowledge of the way cult persuaders work and
> the techniques they use. (Which I find hard to believe), or,
>
> 2) You are intent on defending the cult persuaders techniques by
> equating them with a group of people having a discussion.
> (Which is a ridiculous comparison. Naive people meeting these cult
> persuaders for the first time are like children in the lions den).
>
> 3) Or maybe it was just a cynical remark that appealed to you at the time.

>4) Caveat Emptor - I do not like the idea that people should be 'saved
>from themselves' when they do something you don't like. What
>consenting adults do amongst themselves is not my business, nor is it
>yours IMO.

>Dirk

Hang on, I just googled you.  www.theconsensus.com Now I see why you like
Hubbard !

Your 8 pointed star looks a lot like the church of scientology's "cross"


http://www.theconsensus.org/uk/copyrights/index.html


For the CoS symbol look half way down wikipedia's site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology





Dirk - These aren't people being sold a lousy stereo or used car with the
odo turned back.  In many cases children are abused in a cult and adults who
become aware that they are in a cult are not allowed to leave, are
terrorized, even killed.

You said," What consenting adults do amongst themselves is not my business,
nor is it yours IMO."  That is a poorly reasoned sentence.  You allow that
all people have a right to do as they chose, then you insist that others
must agree with you.

We are not talking about saving an individual from themself.  We are talking
about a group of people who have spun a fairytale out of an egomaniacs drug
induced fantasy world.  We are talking about L Ron Hubbard who fed his son
phenobarb laced chewing gum. A man who injected his son with speed and wrote
a book about how his son thought he had become a clam. A book that later
became Scientology gospel