[extropy-chat] META: att.net users, you might need a different ISP

[Brian Atkins]

Eugen you can go on all you like about how in a perfect world it shouldn't be 
your problem, or ziaspace's problem, or their colo provider's problem, but in 
the end it is still your problem. We members of this list want att.net users to 
be able to subscribe to it. Full stop. Apparently at some point in the past that 
was possible. It would be possible again if some kind of action is taken other 
than telling them they have no hope. So let's go down the list of potential actors:

1. SPEWS list. You're correct they are unlikely to change anything.

2. att.net postmaster/abuse folks, contact and see if they will change this. 
Have you tried? Some ISPs like AOL have mechanisms in place to get your mail 
server whitelisted if you follow their procedures.

3. Colo provider/ziaspace work to get a non-blacklisted IP address for 
lists.extropy.org. Have you asked them to do so? Are they unable to obtain one? 
Or unwilling?

4. You/list adminstrators. Move the list if there are no other options. If your 
new home eventually gets blacklisted for some reason, move again if necessary.

Leaving it alone or allowing it get worse should not be an option. att.net is a 
significant ISP, and is merging with Bellsouth here, so there soon will be many 
more att.net users.
-- 
Brian Atkins
Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
http://www.singinst.org/