[extropy-chat] Death is irreversible v.1.1

John K Clark jonkc at att.net
Wed May 10 16:04:20 UTC 2006


"Heartland" <velvet977 at hotmail.com>

> There should be no link between the two [mind and brain]

No link? Of course there is a link between mind and brain, mind is what a
brain does.

 > mind is not a brain.

Correct, but then why do you keep treating the two as if they were
identical, why do you keep babbling about physical objects and pontificating
about "trajectories in space time"?

> My strategic error in the original post was that the list of definitions
> included ones like "mind" and "brain."

Your logical error was defining mind as something that produces mind. I'm
not saying it's wrong but it's not really very enlightening.

>Physical activity necessarily requires matter

Wow, what a brilliant revelation, physical activity requires something
physical!

> that activity *itself* cannot be stored in static information.

Information can and does control activity, for example, one day the
information in a DNA molecule supervised the activity of some very simple
amino acids and produced you. Those original amino acids have left your
body long ago as has the original DNA molecule, but you remain.

> a mind is a physical activity

Everyone who is not a Jesus freak agrees on that.

> An instance of physical activity must be distinguishable from all other
> instances of physical activity

Why? Can you find one tiny shred of experimental to support such a claim? I
can't.

> Therefore, all instances of subjective experience are distinguishable

Distinguishable by who?

> Instances of objects made of matter are distinguishable. (Trajectories
> show that).

Trajectories that are ephemeral and can be easily erased from the universe.

> Identity should have nothing to do with what the object is.

In a long list of stupid statements you have made that is the stupidest, in
fact it may be the stupidest statement ever made on this list, it's
certainly in the top ten.

  John K Clark





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