[extropy-chat] Bluff and the Darwin award

[Samantha Atkins]

On May 16, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Ned Late wrote:

> Was going to stop at three posts, but had to reply to this,  
> Samantha. World government may be turn out to be the only way to  
> secure a survivable peace; now I am not personally saying it is the  
> only way-- but some do rationally make such a case.
> As I wrote to Russell in a private message, if someone wrote,  
> "world government is our only hope", you might not like the 'our'  
> included in this statement at all.

It is not the "our" that bothers me there.  I am not sure I cotton to  
governments at all but I could support a world government that was  
very minimal and strongly supported individual rights.  Otherwise I  
don't care if it is tiny or worldwide it would still be a danger.

> Every time I have mentioned world government to libertarians, they  
> have grimaced and raised their voices. They made it clear 'our'  
> does not apply to them in any way concerning government, yet they  
> are as you say humans living on this planet and who knows what it  
> will take to secure a peace that will protect our survival as a  
> species. I don't know and neither do you.
>

All I was saying, if you remember in the thick of your rhetoric, was  
that this is our watch, it is we who are here not some descendants.   
Thus whatever can be done to the good will be done by us.   We can't  
put it off on someone else.  I am still at a loss how that gave you  
an opening to get all politically prickly.


> >Are you a human being on the planet at this time? Then "our" in  
> this instance applies >to you. My politics and your opinion of same  
> has zip to do with the truth of that.
> >samantha
>
>

- samantha