[extropy-chat] hope you can comprehend

[Joseph Bloch]

Doesn't that seem to be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

I mean, of COURSE the people who believe that reanimation is feasible 
are going to be cryonicists. If you accept that one premise, no matter 
how slim the odds, it becomes a better bet than the alternative.

So I'm unconvinced that it's necessarily a valid argument to say that 
"nobody who isn't a cryonicist thinks that cryonics is feasible", 
because by definition once you think that cryonics is feasible, you are 
a de facto cryonicist (whether or not you pony up the dough).

Full disclosure: I am signed up with Alcor. Better a billion-to-one shot 
than a zero-to-one shot, sez I.

Joseph

Ned Late wrote:

> Agreed, but no one, outside of cryonics enthusiasts, that I personally 
> have talked to has said reanimation is feasible; that's all. No 
> biggie, merely slightly discouraging. Look, only came to this list 
> because I once asked a professional (who has since died) if Extropy 
> consisted of libertarians. He replied "no they are all kinds" and 
> added one shouldn't give up so easily. But Keith Henson loses his 
> temper calling the post 'troll bait'.
> See this is why I don't want to be at all seriously involved.
>
>     This is just plain silly.
>     Even if all science says you can't be "brought back", it's still a
>     better shot than being preserved and buried the normal way.
>      
>     There is absolutely no way, now, to eliminate the possibility that
>     technology may, someday, be able to reconstruct a human being even
>     down to the microcellular level, even if the original model is a
>     frozen head with all of its cells shatteredy by ice crystals.
>      
>     But I think we can safely eliminate any chance of reconstructing
>     someone who was buried in a cemetary.
>      
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