[extropy-chat] Movie review- Renaissance: Paris 2054

Robert Bradbury robert.bradbury at gmail.com
Tue Nov 28 01:48:42 UTC 2006


On 11/27/06, The Avantguardian <avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I saw this movie a few months ago but all this talk about the inevitable
> clash between H+ and Muslim values reminded me of it. It was a gorgeous film
> essentially a cyberpunk-noir graphic novel come to life. The theme of the
> movie is the conflict between Islam and transhumanism in future France. I
> don't want to spoil it for you so that's all I will tell you for now.


Stuart, I am not sure whether you may be doing the "debate" a disservice by
focusing on "Islam" (which is a gross label) vs. H+ (also a gross label).

The debate and confrontation is much wider than that -- it is the one that
Harris/Dennett/Dawkins are focused on.  It is one of the fundamental
questions enshrined in Max's extropian principles.  Do you base your
existence on "rational thought" or not?

You can argue that a movie promoting the "in our faces" exhibition of the
problem may be useful but I would argue that you might be better served to
strike at the heart of the problem.

So *long* as people believe and act on the basis of nothing more than their
thought about a thought (a belief) we have problems.

Robert
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