[extropy-chat] Anarchy + Transparent Society + ???

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 10:15:33 UTC 2007


On 4/24/07, Sondre Bjellås <sondre.bjellas at intellifield.no> wrote:
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>  What you are describing is the by-effect of criminalizing drugs. You saw
> the same thing in New York back in the days when regular spirit/booze was
> illegal and how the mafia built up around the illegal import and
> distribution. Today, they use drugs to finance their operations.
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> The same thing happens today with drugs as booze before it. Reasonable,
> stable, adult people should be in control of their own life. If they want to
> use drugs, they should be allowed to do so on their own acting.
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> Just as the sex industry, which was one of the first jobs in modern human
> society, the drug (use) abuse might never disappear. If you illegalize the
> sex industry, which is a move that the government in Norway is close to do
> (they have done it in Sweden recently), people won't stop having (buying)
> sex. Instead, things will be more hidden and secret, and the girls will have
> worsened situations and more abuse.
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> When I was in Barcelona last year, the image I was left with from that
> trip is: pimps, hookers, drug addicts and thieves. I don't want any of those
> in my streets or my neighborhood. When it's illegal, it will stay on the
> streets.
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> Make it legal and it's easier to control it and keep things civilized.
> We'll even get taxes, which can be used to help victims of addictions
> (drugs, sex, computers..)
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> It's not a fairly land and things are different between countries.
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> *Germany* has a more relaxed view on prostitution (is it legal by law?),
> and they have little (compared to others) problems with that industry.
> Violence on the other hand, is heavily censored in Germany. +Sex, -Violence
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> The *USA* on the other hand, have no problem showing the most gruesome
> violence on TV, but if there is a nipple or a tit on TV…oh boy! -Sex,
> +Violence
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> *Norway* is similar to the US but more liberal, we don't censor as much as
> the US and Germany, but you won't see anything other than softporn on the
> TV. Harcore porno is completely censored, even though they air it on
> Scandinavian networks (it's viewable in Denmark/Sweden). -Sex, +Violence
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> *Netherlands*, primarily Amsterdam, have a very liberal view on the
> soft-drugs and they tolerate marihuana in certain coffee shops and
> prostitutes are on display in the Redlight District. +Drugs, +Sex
>

It's a shame if traditionally tolerant, liberal Scandinavian countries are
becoming less tolerant and more socially conservative. What is the reason
for these changes?

Stathis Papaioannou
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