[extropy-chat] Anarchy + Transparent Society + Bushido =Survival
benboc at lineone.net
Wed Apr 25 21:22:04 UTC 2007
"Technotranscendence" <neptune at superlink.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:35 PM ben benboc at lineone.net wrote:
> > The Avantguardian <avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> I would expect a society where everyone carried
>> >> weapons to work very politely.
> > Is this a testable hypothesis?
> > Do we have any examples of such societies, past or present?
> > What about gang societies in certain cities?
>Is everyone armed in such societies? I thought that the cities with
>strong gang cultures in the US -- e.g., LA, NYC, Newark NJ -- are cities
>with strict gun control. I would expect such cities to have few people
>carrying guns -- save for criminals. So, I would question your example.
> > Or is that a bad example, because the gang members are
> > all 'bad guys'?
>No, it's a bad example because in places where criminal gangs rule, it
>tends to be the case that few people are legally allowed to be armed.
>This doesn't mean that The Avantguardian is correct, but it means your
>counterexample does not really speak directly to his position.
Yeah, it wasn't a good example.
>> I suspect it's not that simple.
>I suspect you're right, though not given the example you bring up. In
>fact, I think that that case actually supports The Avantguardian. That
>said, however, I suspect that politeness has more to do with other
>cultural factors. Of course, these factors would seem to be reinforced
>by people being allowed free access to arms. Why so? Well, politeness
>would be one way of defusing most situations that might lead to
>violence. The abusive might, under such conditions, think twice before
>insulting or abusing the wimpy guy.
.. or they might just get a bigger gun.
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