[ExI] Subjective and Objective reality

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at comcast.net
Tue Dec 18 02:32:18 UTC 2007

Much of that sounds absurd to me.  Wouldn't the meaning of "lives in a 
separate universe" be that we can't communicate / see each other?  So 
why say something so obviously wrong?

Also, what do you mean by "Consciousness as emergent property"?

This is all very close to the "Hard Problem" of consciousness.  There 
has been some quite impressive thinkers contribute their belief about 
this in the canonizer resulting in a nice emerging survey of the field 


Is what you mean by "emergent" covered by any of the theories of 
consciousness described there?
I don't believe it emerges at all, but is simply a property of nature, 
just like causal properties, as described in this theory:


Brent Allsop

citta437 at aol.com wrote:
> ""The Universe and Multiple Reality
> by M. R. Franks
> (New York: iUniverse, 2003)
> ISBN 0-595-29472-3
> According to above author “There is no one reality. Each of us lives in 
> a separate universe. That's not speaking metaphorically. This is the 
> hypothesis of the stark nature of reality suggested by recent 
> developments in quantum physics. Reality in a dynamic universe is 
> non-objective. Consciousness is the only reality.”
> ______________
> The above is an introduction to his book published in 2003 and four 
> years after, the scientific community stated that Parallel Universe do 
> exist in reality.
> If consciousness is the only reality as Franks stated, he must be 
> stating what Buddhist Philosophers were teaching all along for 2000 
> years. My understanding is that subjective interpretation of reality 
> goes against objective reality, a direct experience of events as it 
> occurs here and now not information as memories and memes which are 
> past events that no longer exist.
> Consciousness as emergent property of the brain arise from quantum 
> interactions in the brain matter unseen by the naked eye. We cannot see 
> gravity either but we see the effect of masses of energy interacting in 
> the universe. At what point did gravity and quantum processes 
> intersect?
> Where is the evidence of mutiple or parallel universes?
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