[extropy-chat] Sasha is alive!

[Giu1i0 Pri5c0]

Now this is a really interesting new thread for 2007!
Of course I agree with Samantha that resurrecting the dead is not
doable with any of the technologies we are even remotely able to
imagine at this moment. The vast majority of the information is
indeed, according to our current knowledge of physics, gone. But
"there are more things in heaven and earth...".
Regaining the information would not require time travel, but only the
ability to retrieve information from the past, which is not the same
thing. Information transfer from the past to the future does not
create logical paradoxes.
And come to that, full time travel itself does not create logical
paradoxes in the MWI.
If something is not against the fundamental laws of physics, sooner or
later engineers will find a way to do it. So, having never met Sasha,
I look forward to meeting him in a few thousands of years.
I wrote on this a couple of years ago and remember some interesting
comments by Samantha. Now I have moved the article to a new home:
http://transumanar.com/index.php/site/engineering_transcendence/
and look forward to your comments. By the way I will expand this
article in a book titled "Transcendent Engineering".
G.

On 1/1/07, Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Robert Bradbury wrote:
>
> > So for those of you focused on computations as to whether or not
> > cold fusion may or may not be feasible, I would offer an alternate
> > problem, "When will we reincarnate Sasha?".  Note the the question
> > is not conditional.  We will have the ability to do this.  We could
> > get into discussions as to whether or not the entity is a "greater"
> > or "lesser" Sasha.  I would argue that the wold is a lesser place
> > with Sasha in absence, and thus we should seek to fill that void.
> >
>
> You can't, regardless of computational capacity.  The vast majority of
> the information is gone.  It would require time-travel to regain it.
> Anything less is a simulacrum acting sort of like some people remember
> Sasha acting some of the time.  I would argue that the world will be a
> better place when we focus on what is actually doable even in theory
> and let go of what we can do nothing about.  We might want to start
> with what is most critical to do something about now or real soon now.
>
> - samantha