[ExI] does the pedal meet the medal?
thomas at thomasoliver.net
Sat Jun 16 10:11:34 UTC 2007
> From: BillK <pharos at gmail.com>
> Date: June 15, 2007 1:13:17 AM MST
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] does the pedal meet the medal?
> Reply-To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> On 6/15/07, Samantha Atkins wrote:
>> Is it possible to get some of the more promising cognitive drugs out
>> there today like CX717? Yes I realize it is officially early in the
>> official cycle. But by the time the "official" cycle is done and it
>> is approved "officially" for strictly non-enhancement use only as per
>> usual I will have experienced several years of lower memory and
>> concentration that I could otherwise have along with many tens of
>> millions of other boomers. What can be done? Not 10 years from
>> now if then but now or as close to it as possible? Can we do
>> nothing but talk and hope to get enough influence some day to
>> influence the "official line"? I don't think we will ever get there.
>> Not in this country where even something as no-brainer as stem cell R
>> & D (or even R only) has to battle like mad. So what is to be done?
> Natural stuff is probably easier to obtain.
> You can try ingesting 'natural' stuff like snake venom, cyanide,
> globefish poison, or the nightshade family, etc.
> What do you mean 'It's poison!'. Only in certain dosages, and they
> could be combined with other substances as well. Where's your sense of
> Just because something has a technical name like CX717 doesn't mean
> it's not poison. That's the point of long term testing.
In my non expert opinion ampakines work by means of their toxic
effect on re-uptake receptors. I believe this interferes with the
brain's self regulation. Along with enhanced learning and memory, I
prefer to include better self regulation. I don't know what Ray
Kurzweil takes, but I very seldom indulge in stimulants or
depressants. I prefer non toxic nutropics. My favorites are L-
tyrosine and DMAE (liquid).
Regarding what to do about restricted access to chemicals we like:
Some say greater risks afford greater rewards. I sometimes consider
it ethical to bypass systems that represent a liability. I suppose
conflict can be fun. On the other hand what if something as simple
as sunlight on my retinas to shut off melatonin production does the
trick? -- Thomas
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