[ExI] camp statements

[Michael M. Butler]

"Camp" was also the name of a company that produced foundation
garments such as long-line girdles, appropriate for shaping
transvestite males (possibly with padding added).

The etymology is odd, and I think Chip Delaney's was mostly folk."Se
camper" sounds good but I'd want to see more substantiation...

On 6/23/07, Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> At 06:57 PM 6/23/2007 -0600, Brent wrote:
>
>
> >I've added two of my current favorite movies, including some crude
> >starts to some camp statements.  I hope that if anyone agrees, they
> >will join our camp, moving it up the list, and help out a bit to
> >improve the camp statements.
>
> You might want to reconsider that term, or risk having people snigger at you.
>
> wikipedia:
>
> Camp is an aesthetic in which something has appeal because of its bad
> taste or ironic value.
>
> A part of the anti-academic defense of popular culture in the
> sixties, camp came to popularity in the eighties with the widespread
> adoption of Postmodern views on art and culture.
>
> "Camp" is derived from the French slang term se camper, which means
> "to pose in an exaggerated fashion." The OED gives 1909 as the first
> citation of "camp" in print, with the sense of "ostentatious,
> exaggerated, affected, theatrical; effeminate or homosexual;
> pertaining to or characteristic of homosexuals. So as n., 'camp'
> behaviour, mannerisms, etc. (see quot. 1909); a man exhibiting such
> behaviour." According to the OED, this sense of the word is
> "etymologically obscure."
>
> According to writer and queer theorist Samuel R. Delany, the term "a
> camp" originally developed from the practice of female impersonators
> and other prostitutes following military encampments to service the
> soldiers. Later, it evolved into a more general description of the
> aesthetic choices and behavior of working class gay men. Finally, it
> was brought into mainstream use (and transformed into an adjective)
> by Susan Sontag in her landmark essay (see below). [etc etc]
>
>
>
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