[ExI] agency-based personal identity

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Jef wrote:

> "As a somewhat related aside:
> On a list where rationality is an overt high value,
> I find it somewhat
> unnecessary and distracting when social niceties are
> appended to a
> post (as Jeffrey seems to be doing lately.)  While I
> don't subscribe
> to the opposite extreme of "Crocker's Rules", I tend
> to take
> intelligence, mutual respect and good humor for
> granted, not needing
> ongoing reinforcement and reassurance."... 
> - Jef

Guilty as charged, I suppose. But sometimes it really
is difficult to gauge how my comments will affect
people. And I'm not always entirely "myself", so
sometimes I feel the need to apologize or clarify for
something I've written. It's probably a character flaw
within myself, but I usually can't help it (at least
not yet - bring on the nanobots).

Sincerely,

Jeffrey Herrlich


--- Jef Allbright <jef at jefallbright.net> wrote:

> On 6/25/07, Thomas Oliver <thomas at thomasoliver.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > I guess this highlights our divergent views on
> compulsion.  I discriminate
> > between voluntary response and obligation driven
> compulsion.
> > I encourage you to respond to "seeking minds," but
> not to feel personally
> > obligated to provide me with the "higher level"
> view.
> 
> Thomas, when I said I "felt compelled" to address
> that issue, it was
> in a sense similar to saying I "felt compelled" to
> help tourists lost
> in a train station in a foreign land. I use that
> analogy because I
> often felt and acted so while living in Japan, to
> help tourists who I
> noticed appeared disoriented.  I felt compelled in
> the sense of
> expressing my values, making the world a little
> better, rather than in
> terms of any (clearly non-existent) contract or
> other form of
> obligation.
> 
> As for the possibility of pedagogical condescension
> and resultant
> offense implied in your statement, I had no such
> intention whatsoever,
> and as I indicated, my contributions to the public
> discourse are with
> our few hundred lurkers in mind.
> 
> As a somewhat related aside:
> On a list where rationality is an overt high value,
> I find it somewhat
> unnecessary and distracting when social niceties are
> appended to a
> post (as Jeffrey seems to be doing lately.)  While I
> don't subscribe
> to the opposite extreme of "Crocker's Rules", I tend
> to take
> intelligence, mutual respect and good humor for
> granted, not needing
> ongoing reinforcement and reassurance.  In this
> regard, with certain
> individuals, I am clearly lacking.
> 
> - Jef
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