[extropy-chat] something rather than nothing

[A B]

Although if one wanted to be pedantic about it, one
might argue that even mathematics cannot exist in the
void of nothingness, but only as a product of creation
so to speak. I hope perpetuating this thread doesn't
annoy too many people :-)

Best Wishes,

Jeffrey Herrlich


--- The Avantguardian <avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> 
> --- Russell Wallace <russell.wallace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Would we? Suppose we weren't?
> > 
> > Phrased that way, that doesn't sound like it makes
> > sense, so let's use
> > Hawking's rephrasing of the original question:
> "What
> > is it that breathes
> > fire into the equations and makes a universe for
> > them to describe?"
> 
> Perhaps the equations themselves breath fire into
> the
> universe.
> 
> > In other words, "part of the same set of equations
> > as we are" is just what
> > we meant all along by the word "real"; the notion
> > that that set of equations
> > might not be real is therefore a logical
> > self-contradiction, and the answer
> > to the original question is "mu".
> 
> Your argument is right on. Except I call mu OM.
> 
> 
> Stuart LaForge
> alt email: stuart"AT"ucla.edu
> 
> "Now what I contend is that my body is my own, at
> least I have always so regarded it. If I do harm
> through my experimenting with it, it is I who
> suffers, not the state." -Mark Twain
> 
> 
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