[extropy-chat] Role of Observer is not Relevant

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 03:47:55 UTC 2007

On 3/29/07, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:33:33PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> >      to do that, you need a) an appropriate physical system b)
> >      appropriate
> >      configuration c) an agent capable of that measurement. Of course,
> >      in
> >      some cases you can have all three in the same entity.
> >
> >    Would your counting program above satisfy requirement (c) by itself?
> No, it is merely a) and b), it doesn't contain any logic for an agent.
> You need a measurement (a comparison) and an alternate behaviour,
> caused by two different measurements. For instance, an oscillator
> driving a counter driving a comparator driving a bomb detonator would
> qualify.

Are you saying real world consequences are required, or would doing all this
in software, in a simulated environment without external input, suffice?

Stathis Papaioannou
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