[ExI] QT and SR (was Re: Probability is "subjectively objective".)

Lee Corbin lcorbin at rawbw.com
Wed Jul 16 00:17:11 UTC 2008


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damien Broderick" <thespike at satx.rr.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:44 PM
Subject: [ExI] QT and SR (was Re: Probability is "subjectively objective".)


> At 03:48 PM 7/15/2008 -0700, Lee wrote:
> 
>>John Clark writes
>>
>>How do you know that it's you moving and not the Milky
>>Way and the Virgo Cluster that're moving?
> 
> It doesn't matter. This is just obfuscation.
> 
>>>Yes, the concept of "Instantaneously" is reference-frame
>>>dependent, but the distance between 2 events in space-time is not,
>>>it's always the same,
>>
>>You're trying to think of "spacetime interval"
> 
> I understood that this is exactly what John was talking about. No 
> need for a patronizing tutorial with JKC.
> 
>>>>All that's happening is that the outcome of a measurement *here*
>>>>is correlated with the outcome of a measurement *there*.
>>>All? ALL! Here is a billion light years from there!
>>
>>Not to someone moving past you at .999999999999c.  To him,
>>youse are just a few yards apart.
> 
> Unless the conjecture I posted earlier today is relevant, this 
> compression isn't to the point either, I think. The point is that (by 
> construction) once thingee A is measured, anyone measuring thingee B 
> *which is outside the first thingee's lightcone from any viewpoint*, 
> will necessarily find a single determinate result, without there 
> being any hidden determining variables inducing that outcome. Viola! 
> (as a musician might say)--weird as shit, dude.
> 
> Damien Broderick
> 
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