[ExI] [extropy-chat] Elvis Sightings

scerir scerir at libero.it
Fri Jun 6 18:18:06 UTC 2008

John K Clark:

> You included 2 links, the first one
> http://www.aip.org/pnu/2008/split/865-2.html
> Is interesting but I've already read it and has absolutely nothing
> to due with cold fusion so I don't know why you mentioned it. 

Just to show something simple and previously unknown. 
We do not know everything.

> Think I'm wrong this time? Fine, I will repeat the bet I've 
> made so many times before: If a pro cold fusion article 
> (not counting Muon-catalyzed cold fusion) appears in 
> Science or Nature or Physical Review Letters before
> June 6 2009 I will send you $1000, is it doesn't you will 
> sent me $100. Come on, it's generous odds and easy money!

I hope that Nature or Science would publish
"cold fusion" experiments showing a process like
D + D -> T + n
D + D -> He3 + p
D + D -> He4 + hv
D + D -> something else

To my knowledge there are experiments
showing, i.e., the production of He4, *but* there
are technical (calorimetric) problems when 
they measure the excess heat/energy and the resulting 

So, once again, the question seems to be:
1) is excess heat/energy really measured ?
2) is excess heat/energy due to a fusion process?
   are there neutrons, protons, or He4?

As long as they do not measure the excess heat/energy
(and such a measurement is not easy) Nature or Science 
cannot publish "cold fusion" papers.


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