[ExI] Under the libertarian yoke was Re: Next Decade May See No Warming

[Rafal Smigrodzki]

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>  Suppose it's true that global warming will happen and that it will be
>  a disaster, and suppose it's also true that there is something that
>  could be done now to prevent it. Even if this is understood by
>  everyone, the free market is unlikely to give rise to action to avert
>  disaster if such action results in loss of short and medium term
>  profits for individual enterprises. It's a variation on the Prisoner's
>  Dilemma: you would be foolish to restrict your energy use or switch to
>  more expensive "green" energy sources if you're going to lose money as
>  a result and, in any case, no-one benefits from your trouble unless a
>  majority of people voluntarily follow your example. The only way to
>  solve the problem seems to be if there is an opportunity to vote to
>  *force everyone* to adhere to a plan which, although profit-sapping,
>  will at least be disaster-averting.

### Stathis, long term exposure to statist propaganda may have sapped
your desire to use your imagination, hence your usage of the words
"only" and "force everyone" (the state, in three short words).

But I am sure you still could think your way through the problem and
come up with non-violent solutions (i.e. solutions that do not
postulate the use of a unitary player/organization applying
overwhelming force to cause conformity of action). I know of such
solutions to the Prisoner's Dilemma, which work beautifully in other
real-like contexts, so let me challenge you:

Brainstorm here with us on how to solve the problem of global warming,
assuming that we have been invaded by highly advanced (and therefore
libertarian) aliens, who say they will fry with lasers everybody who
initiates the use of force but they won't help us otherwise in dealing
with our problems (of course they won't, they are heartless
libertarians). So, willy-nilly, if you want to avoid a miserable death
on a parched planet, you have to deal with global warming without
simply grabbing a gun and going after people who disagree with you.

If you succeed, you may in time grow strong enough to throw down the
libertarian yoke, but that's a whole different story.

Rafal